TPMS Quick Tip

TPMS Quick Tip: Honda

An Unexpected Cause: A Honda service tip solves an unusual problem.

Advancements in TPMS and scan tool technology have made the systems a lot more dependable, and a lot easier for us as technicians to work on. But we still run across the unusual from time to time, and we stumbled across this interesting service tip from Honda.

Some 2014-2016 Honda CR-V models were experiencing TPMS indicator light illumination after tire replacement. The cause of the problem was discovered to be a mismatched tire, but not the size.

In these cases, one of the original equipment tires is the Continental CrossContact LX 225/65R17 (P/N 42751-CTL-010, DOT ID CN5L). This particular tire was made in France and had a one-ply sidewall construction. Even though the tires have been discontinued, a limited supply is still available until they run out.

There are also two official replacement tires, one made in Portugal (P/N 42751-CTL-027, DOT ID AF5L) that has a two-ply construction and one made in the U.S. (P/N 42751-CTL-009, DOT ID A32Y) that is also a two-ply construction but is heavier than the French- or Portuguese-made tire.

The sidewall construction and weight of the three tires caused each one to have different rolling characteristics and because of the way indirect TPMS works, the differences were enough to cause the TPMS warning light to illuminate.

This certainly could have been one that would leave you scratching your head, so it reminds us that if everything looks good on our scan tool, we can’t forget to look at the not-so obvious.

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Advanced Driver Assistance Systems (ADAS) require the use of a scan tool for diagnostics, and the majority of the time, it’s required for post-repair calibration. ADAS, like any other system, requires a diagnostic routine, which begins with a base knowledge of the system. Knowing ADAS will help understand fault symptoms and scan tool data for the most efficient diagnosis.While systems can and will differ, here’s a look at common ADAS features, their general configurations and calibration requirements.Parking assist sensors, of which there can be more than one, are generally located in the front and rear bumpers. They are the inputs that affect active parking assist and parking collision warnings. Any time they are disturbed in any manner, a static calibration must be performed with a scan tool.Side object sensors, sometimes called collision avoidance sensors, are commonly located in the rear bumper. These sensors provide input for blind spot warnings, lane change alerts and rear cross traffic warnings. Static calibration with a scan tool is required when these are removed or replaced.Rear vision cameras will be located in the rear decklid, liftgate or tailgate, and act as either a backup camera alone, or part of a surround view system if the vehicle is so equipped. These cameras generally require a dynamic calibration, and no scan tool is required.A forward-looking camera is sometimes located behind the grille, and usually part of a surround view system. These too do not require a scan tool, but a dynamic calibration must be performed when they are removed or replaced.Different ADAS features may have dedicated control modules which can be located in various areas, often behind interior panels. As with most control modules, these require scan tool programming when replaced and, depending on the system, both static and dynamic calibrations may be required.The Haptic Seat Motor creates the vibration to provide a safety alert for blind spot, forward collision, lane departure, lane keep assist, parking collision and rear cross traffic warnings. These motors, sometimes called seat warning actuators, generally require no type of calibration.Cameras located in a sideview mirror are part of surround view systems. These require calibration when removed or replaced, but most of them dynamic, and no scan tool is required.The steering angle sensor located in the steering column is an input for lane keep assistance, and a static calibration is required with a scan tool any time it is removed or replaced, or any time a wheel alignment is performed.Last, but not least, is the front view, or forward-looking camera located in the windshield area. This camera is a vital part of adaptive cruise control, automatic emergency braking, automatic high beam headlights, forward collision and lane departure warnings, and lane keeping assistance. A scan tool and static and dynamic calibration are required after removal and replacement, but also after windshield removal or replacement, or any service that affects the ride height of the vehicle. TS

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